Meet The Visionary Behind The Counterfest Livestreams!

Meet The Visionary Behind The Counterfest Livestreams!

Alfred Gomez

 21, Film Director/Musician/Founder & CEO of Proveo Media Group

INTERVIEW BY NEIL LEVIN, ON BEHALF OF SKULLWAVE RECORDS (skullwaverecords.com)

ALFRED: Hello! My name is Alfred Gomez, I’m 21 years old, I’m the founder and CEO of Proveo Media Group. I will be answering some questions from Skullwave Records from the amazing Neil Levin, the greatest person I’ve worked with. It's truly an honor. From day one I saw him and his band Counter Conformity. I know he’s going to be going places with the band and I hope I can stick around till then. So without further delay I’ll answer the first question.

NEIL:

When did you start/discover your passion for filmmaking, how old were you?

ALFRED: It all actually started through church, I got into music first before I discovered cameras and filmmaking in general. It was drums at first then bass and just about 7 years ago guitar. But I discovered cameras at an event my church was having “River Arena Church with Pastor Dante Gebel by the way go check it out”. I would say about 2012 was the year I was about 10 or 11 at the time. Instead of holding a sign or waving at cars and people, I got my moms phone (back then was an iPhone 5c) and started taking some photos. I did a little bit of video but mostly photos. It wasn’t until the photographer who was part of the group came up to me and asked if I liked taking photos. I said I wasn’t sure because I got bored and was doing it for fun. He said that’s great and said “if that’s something you want to do, have fun doing it” I didn’t know back then but if it weren’t for him I probably wouldn’t be writing these answers down, or who knows I could’ve been a musician in a band. Fun fact I actually did try that in high school but it never worked out, fortunately I'm now in my sisters band “Ribbons” as the lead guitarist! Anyways ever since then I’ve gotten more into cameras and film and Tv, at the time the church I go to is one of the many famous Hispanic churches in America and back then was televised on channel 52 on Telemundo. They had a full Tv crew but back then was very old school I’ve been told, but instead of listening to the pastor during Sunday service “forgive me lord” I would watch the camera operators that would wander through the aisles all the time. I had no idea what they were doing but all I knew was that there was a camera next to me and at that moment I was fascinated and it was one of my dreams to be like them one day. 15 years later I’m now working full-time at the church's Media Tv Team, started out as a cable-guy to now operate the same camera position I always wanted to be on, and along the way started a media company with the amazing people I’ve met along the way. Truly I’m grateful for the gift that God has blessed me with and I’m always aiming to do the best I can everyday.

NEIL: First memory behind a camera?

ALFRED: I actually have many but just to answer, my first memory behind a real camera was when that same group from the event wanted to make a little short film back in 2012. Me and my family were literally invited at the last minute but we were excited to be part of the project. Back then in the group there was a very good close friend of mine (Andy Garcia Coronado)  who at the time was one of the church's videographers who would cover these events. He had the idea to make a short film and asked me if I could help him get behind the scenes footage. I gladly said yes and he handed me one of his personal camcorders, back then was the Sony VX1000, yes sir the infamous VX1000s that were used in all of the many skateboarding videos from the 90’s. It was also an easy camera to use because it was very simple. He was using a Canon 5D to shoot the short film but I was very excited and happy that I was holding a REAL camera, and I protected that thing with my life. I swear I made sure the lens was cleaned and the monitor too. His budget was really small but to me and everyone there it didn’t matter because we all had a fun time being part of it. I filmed as much as possible, got to practice my zoom-ins and zoom-outs and kept a steady shot. There was even a point where there was a chase scene and I booked it to the front of the small crowd, keep in mind I’m like 11 years old holding some pretty heavy equipment and running at top speed to the front I swear, back then I was not aware of gimbals or steadicams but that shot was probably very VERY shaky and was probably un-usable. But that day was truly an amazing day I’ll never forget. Andy was very helpful to me teaching me everything he knew about cameras and how to operate them. There was one time we had an event on Halloween and he brought his new camera, it was one of the bigger and bulkier camcorders but this one weighed a TON. But looking back from where I started and where I am now really inspires me to keep going and keep loving what God has given me to do.

NEIL: What is the meaning/story behind Proveo Media?

ALFRED:  To answer this we have to go to the very beginning of Proveos history. Before Proveo this company started out as just a little hobby, I used to think I wanted to be like a big time director like Steven Spielberg or an Edgar Wright, now that I think about it now I am aiming towards that. Back then I was mostly getting wedding and quinceañera gigs, unfortunately most of them I wasn’t paid enough or at all but to me that was ok because for me that was practice to improve on my skills as a camera operator. And it did pay off. I was getting better and better as I got more experience, then eventually I got the idea to start my own business so I can start getting more jobs, mainly focusing on weddings and quinceañeras or small events. I’ll be honest most of them I also did not make any money but some were very grateful and gave me what they thought was good enough and to me as a teenager I didn’t mind if I got paid or not. Eventually the time came to put a name to my business, now I have no idea where “FazzJazz” came from but the “Fazz” word just stuck to me and one of my favorite genres of music was jazz so I just put them together, FazzJazz Studios…how brilliant of me. Back then I didn’t think anything of it but I was not proud of it, I’ll get back to that later, but it was a good run for 5 years. In 2019 something came up that I’m sure was the cause of a change in the company. I've got an opportunity to meet a musician who was also a surfer by the name of Neil Levin. We met at a house where his band named Counter Conformity practiced. We talked about a concert they were going to play on the 4th of July at a festival in San Juan Capistrano and gave me the opportunity to film their entire set which I gladly agreed to do. Now up to that point where I’ve had no experience in multi camera production or “broadcast” but I had an idea how to execute it. I only had one camera personally but I was able to get some of my friends to help me out as additional camera operators. We literally had no idea what we were doing but as this industry demands, you think on your feet and see how it goes so we ran through the concert. Amazing concert by the band and I truly believe this first one was truly special in its own way and that began the start of an amazing journey with Neil Levin and Counter Conformity. After the success of the first concert I started to look out for weddings and focused on music related content like more concerts and maybe music videos. The first ever music video I filmed was for a school project but my first legitimate music was in fact with Neil for his song “Call Him Fate” . I was a one-man band on that one but it turned out great even for Neil. Two more music videos came out of that one, “Colorado” and “Redirection, No Affection”. Then in January of 2020 Neil came to me with an idea for a music festival called Counterfest and was going to be held at FTG warehouse in Santa Ana. This was probably my biggest project yet so I went documentary style to capture the first ever Counterfest, more on the other events later on. Now at that point I believe was the transition from the name, while starting Proveo Media as I’ve mentioned before it was FazzJazz Studios. I just did not feel happy or proud of the name just because it didn’t sound or look professional. During that time I have been thinking about what the future of my company would be, “What do I want to have?” “what should this company be seen as?” “What do people want to see that they care about?” And that’s where documentary filmmaking came into play. There's a quote I believe that fits into this point and that’s from photographer (Stuart Franklin) once said in an interview, “Documentary is not just about the extraordinary but also the ordinary” he’s the photographer who took the most historically famous “tank man” photo of a student standing in front of 3 military tanks during the Tiananmen Square protest and massacre in Beijing, China of 1989. I believe he put it best why so many journalists or documentary filmmakers do what we do, we capture the reality of the world. Every person on earth has their own story and it’s our moral mission to share their story through this medium. What I love about documentary filmmaking is that you can put your own artistic style in how you tell a story and make the story more visually pleasing to watch over and over again. When I look back to my earlier documentaries they had that “raw” and “rough” style, not perfect but it showed the realism to the subject like we are there with them. But besides documentaries we’ve obviously been producing different types of content such as concerts, music videos, and also sports content, but one of my favorite types of films to make are documentary films and whenever I get a chance to produce one I focus more on the story and how can that story inspire every person who watches it. I have not answered yet on what “Proveo” means so I’ll get to that now. When looking into coming up with a name I knew I wanted the logo to be bold and visually memorable like when you see the McDonald’s, Apple, or the Nike logo. And the word “Proveo'' first didn’t really mean anything but after the first 3 years I realized in simple terms it means “Provide” in Spanish, and I think that name fits our definition as a company, we provide real content that other alternative companies don’t want to show or that “doesn’t sell” the reality of the stories we share. The inspiration that comes within the characters we capture to hopefully inspire another person, that nothing is impossible when you believe in it. To chase your ambitions and dreams and make them a reality. That's what I believe “Proveo” means. As we grow and develop our brand, we hope we can bring back the old style of journalism, to have people go out and document stories from not just here in America, but internationally. I will say we have something of that sort in the works and we’re working hard to release it but only God knows when. But as of now all I can say is join us for the ride cause you don’t want to miss any of our traces.

NEIL: Who are your biggest influences/inspirations?

ALFRED:  The biggest influence was mostly through church. I've met some of the most talented cameramen who were generous to teach me a few tricks and ever since then my passion for filmmaking grew from the church. One of my best influences was my good friend Daniel Figueroa, we met at one of the events where we both were videographers and that sparked a special friendship. We were somewhat new to the world of filmmaking and we’ve been always helping each other out in learning what we had to know. He introduced me to lighting and more creative angles when I thought there wasn’t a good angle. He also introduced me to color grading and showed me how to improve on my editing. Overall I couldn’t ask for a better friend and partner to help me when I would have shoots, and I also returned the favor whenever he needed help in his own shoots. Other inspirations have come from watching documentary videos on YouTube. One of my all time favorites are Vice Media documentaries. I think that Vice played a big role in influencing Proveo because they also follow the same philosophy of creating alternative media. And yes I’m aware not a lot of people are not fans of them due to the “not so good” or “woke content” they produce nowadays but what I like about them is their old videos or as some fans know them as the “Old Vice” there’s something about those videos that really inspired me to pursue documentary filmmaking. I enjoy their Vice Guide to Travel: North Korea documentary. It was the lowest quality because North Korea only allowed a point and shoot camera to the country as Shane Smith Co Founder stated in the video. Now that doesn’t mean Proveo is going to be like a “knock off Vice” but it’s the style on how they produce videos is what inspired me. Another media company that also influenced Proveo was Great Big Story, they produced history mini documentaries and they are always fun to watch. just about 6 years ago they had to shut down due to covid but fortunately they came back to business and are producing content again which made me very happy. If you want to know a little history lesson I highly recommend watching their videos, legit their Great! Recently when I joined the Tv production team at River Church it also had an influence on improving my skill in television and with that I’ve met and worked with the most talented people I’ve ever had the opportunity to work with, hands down the best team ever. One of those influences is the television director Brian Gebel, one of the pastor's sons from the church. If I had a chance to nominate a director I know, hands down it’s Brian Gebel, he is one of the most talented directors I have the honor to work with. When he has a vision he shows us (the crew) how to do it and what and when we need to do it. What’s very amazing is that he’s also open to our ideas and lets us be very creative in moving the story. I also have inspirations from Hollywood directors, I do have a list but just for the sake of this interview I’ll mention some familiar ones. Steven Spielberg, Michael Bay, Alfred Hitchcock, Martin Scorsese, Edgar Wright, Damien Chazelle, Robert Rodriguez, Gulliermo del Toro, Wes Anderson, Quenten Tarantino, Christopher Nolan, and Vince Gilligan. I have a lot more but there’s a few. Actually I have one more I have to mention. He’s probably my biggest inspiration when it comes to directing music videos. Samuel Bayer, some people might have heard of him, some people haven’t. But some of his work you might recognize. He produced the “Smells Like Teen Spirit” music video for Nirvana. “Bullet With Butterfly Wings” for Smashing Pumpkins. “Zombie” for Cranberries. “Welcome to The Black Parade” and “Famous Last Words” for My Chemical Romance. “American Idiot” and “Boulevard of Broken Dreams” for Green Day. “Quick Escape” for Pearl Jam. He’s also done a few feature films like “A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010)” just to name a few of his works. The reason why I mention Sam is because some of those videos are from my favorite bands that I’ve listened to growing up and it was like an “awe” moment when I discovered who made those videos. His first ever job when he moved to Los Angeles was actually the Nirvana video which made his mark in Hollywood to start his directing journey. His style of directing is fascinating to me, he’s a real director who back then gave that “angry director” energy and made sure that his crew were doing their jobs to the fullest extent. Whenever a problem occurred it’s always a “figure it out” type of deal or most times when they couldn’t do it, it was a “I’ll do it myself” situation. My source for how I know this is from behind the scene videos on YouTube which you can find. Now you're probably thinking that he’s a…”direct” or “tempered” type of director but sometimes when the clock is ticking and you just have to get that shot, you need a leader who can make sure people are doing what they need to do when time is of the essence. What I mostly find inspiring however is his style of producing. Most directors would just stay in video village through the whole production away from the actual scene, which for some situations like a stunt is reasonable but even on small shoots some just hide away in video village. Samuel is his own cameraman and most times close to the scene itself which I think is the most important aspect of a shoot especially when directing an actor. Good example is Quenten Tarantino, he’s next to the camera because he explains that the actor gives a better performance when they are acting for the director, not necessarily the camera. Same concept with Samuel and that’s what I like about his directing. Also his cinematography is unique. Whenever he can he shoots on film, like actually Kodak film. For those who are big “film lovers” or what my pastor likes to call “Los Nerds!” He has a unique way of using film in his final image. He experiments with colors and looks, lenses and cameras. On “Boulevard of Broken Dreams” from Green Day he intentionally scratches the film in different parts, spills coffee and puts out a cigarette on it to make real film scratches to make it look vintage and old. He also explains how he prefers film over digital, that to emulate film on a digital workflow just doesn’t look legitimate, and believe me I’ve tried that myself. He’s one of my biggest influences when it comes to music videos. He shows great persistence and determination and a passion for filmmaking which I strive to be. My one wish is if I ever get the chance to meet him one day that would be incredible, God willing. I’ll finish this question with a quote that I like from an Interview for Kodak, “It’s like putting technicians in a place where artists should be, cables and wires and all that stuff, I like the fact that sometimes I got to smack the mag on my camera just to make sure to get the film rolling, and I hear it like a engine in my car, I just want to hear it rolling. For no other reason if I can just hear that film rolling it’s like Gods on my side that day” - Samuel Bayer

NEIL: What about your work inspires you the most?

ALFRED:  What has inspired me from my own work is that I’ve learned how to adapt from different environments and situations and to think on my feet. Especially in news reporting, most likely you will have to learn on how you want to cover a story from different angles. Another thing that inspires me is that I’m always proud that I get to create, ever since I was little I always wanted to create things and that’s where I find inspiration, and what’s very cool is that people enjoy my work as well. It gives me motivation to keep doing what I do when the client is happy with the final result. I also find motivation when I get to teach someone new to the filmmaking world, especially when it’s someone who really has the same level of passion as I do. It makes me happy whenever I meet someone new and we collaborate on projects. Actually one benefit we offer at Proveo is one-on-one training for new employees. We teach everything from the commercial trade so anyone can go from beginner to pro in a few months. Another thing my work inspires me is when I see an opportunity or a door that can get through to make a video I immediately go for it with no hesitation, I believe that’s something people should learn to do, is when your gut tells you to do it, do it, don’t overthink it. Because if you do, you’ll never do it again. So for those who want to pursue a passion not necessarily in video but in music, art, or whatever. Go for it, a wise person once said “the more you mess around, the more you’ll find out, if you don’t mess around, you’ll never find out” - some wise person.

NEIL: How have you grown as an artist over the years?

ALFRED:  I would say the way I grew as an artist was by being a good observer, some would say. Whatever other people did I would just pay attention to what they were doing and learn on my own. And eventually getting a mentor who would teach me on the spot helped a lot with my growth as a filmmaker and working on projects and gaining experience as well. Eventually I was called up from my church to help out with video projects as well on the field so I’ve gained a lot of practice and experience from those events. Then when I met my friend Daniel we filmed a lot of projects together and learned from each other. I think that's where I’ve grown as a filmmaker is practicing with other people who are also practicing, then you learn from each other as you go on. I believe that’s the best way to grow your skills. Then it was time to start my own video production business which as I mentioned back then was called FazzJazz Studios. It was mostly focused on wedding and Quinceañera events but I also made different types of content as well. Then when I started working with Neil and Counter Conformity I experimented with Multicam production or “tv” production and I grew to love that more so I practiced and experimented with that. That also caused the company to make a big change which was great, I’d never imagined how the company would evolve into and I’m proud that Proveo is what it is today. I hope that we can be providing a lot more content “no pun intended” and we hope that our audience can be inspired. About 4 years ago I joined my church's Television production team and that’s where I’ve improved a lot as a camera operator. I learned how to better compose a shot and find good composition where I thought there wasn’t, it’s all about where you place the camera. I learned how to tell the story when producing videos, I found out that almost every video no matter the type or subject there’s always a story to tell, in combination with a lot of action and reaction shots you can tell a great story with limited resources. And even though I’ve had many years of experience and I may be considered a “pro” which technically it’s true but a wise person told me “who ever is pro?” Which at first I didn’t understand but after realizing all of the greats were still learning even though they’ve done so many things. And that’s the point with growth and process is that we never stop learning, we keep learning new techniques and new methods of whatever we do. Practice doesn’t make “perfect”, practice makes improvement. And we have to keep improving in our craft until we can’t get it wrong. You’ve probably heard these quotes on social media but they're true and we should put them into practice. When in the process of growth we also have to learn to embrace Failure. Failure is your friend because no matter how many times you do so, you still get another chance over and over again. And what you should fear is not starting or quitting, if you want to start something that you have the passion for but are afraid to start, that’s when you have to start, you’ll never know if you don’t find out. So I encourage anyone reading this to go out there and make some loud noise!

NEIL: How has working with Skullwave Records and the Counter Conformity collective helped further your art?

ALFRED: Well ever since I started working with Neil and Counter Conformity it’s been amazing, all of the projects we’ve created for them has been great to work on. And it has impacted our brand in growth over the years, I got to meet new people and experiment on my creativity with whatever ideas Neil brings. And I’m very proud of the growth of Neil and Counter Conformity, they’ve come a long way and I'm glad I was able to see part of that process. Another great thing about working with Neil is that we get to work on our biggest project which is Counterfest which I’ll get into in the next question, but it’s always a new challenge each year and that’s what’s the most fun if I do say so myself. It’s great to look back to see how far we’ve come and it helps us improve more and more in what we do. Each time we work on something we always give it 100% and go the extra mile. And since Counter Conformity has grown as well, we’re very fortunate to have a full crew to help document the legendary Counter Conformity concerts and events from Skullwave Records. Our crew are always excited whenever we get called to film Counterfest because for us it’s getting to do what we love to do and execute our creative skills on the field. We’re very excited for future projects that Counter Conformity has to offer and we’re honored to be working alongside them.

NEIL: Do you feel your presence has grown since working with Skullwave?

ALFRED: Our presence has grown over the years with SkullWave, whenever SkullWave grows we grow alongside them. We're mostly known as “Proveo Tv” Proveo Tv is our television division providing everything from original written series, documentaries, live concert coverage, and so much more. Whenever people see us roll into Counterfest, we get that look of “Oh they're making a movie” or “is this going to be live?” Proveo Tv is a hub for young viewers where they can enjoy an “MTV style” of content. This is why in every Counterfest stream nothing is censored because I truly believe people should have the right to their own voice (as long as it’s not harmful or violent of course) But yes we're a platform where you can make it anything you want it to be and in hopes to provide REAL content. Not “Cookie-cutter” “fast-shipping” content. Content that has been created with hard working hands, creative brains, and passionate hearts.

NEIL: What is it like being behind the scenes of popular Skullwave events like Counterfest and the Skullwave showcase?

ALFRED: The behind the scenes perspective of Counterfest and Skullwave are always a challenge for us to execute. It is nearly impossible to do without a great team supporting every step of the way from creativity and tech. If I had to answer someone who asked “how exactly do you do everything?” We’d be here all day because it’s a lot of logistics when planning for a pre-recorded broadcast even if it’s not live to air. But I’ll explain as much as I can briefly on what goes on behind the scenes. It all starts when you receive a text from Neil Levin saying “it’s official! Counterfest is in 2 months!” Well all jokes aside, basically we check in with potential bands for the line up, the venue is at FTG warehouse and the first time I’ve been there it was so amazing I never knew places like that existed. FTG has a vibe that makes you feel welcomed and part of the show, we always say without people there is no show so the audience. And obviously the music is the key component for a show but it’s also the audience. And every year we’re seeing more people and new audiences which is great. From the Proveo Tv perspective our goal is to capture the festival and rewind it back to the online audience to make them feel as if they were actually there, so camera angles play a big role in portraying that. Our crew is like a “fly on the wall” we’re basically there but we operate like if where not there and that’s when we get genuine reactions from the audience which are my favorites, you get to see the people singing along, jumping around, obviously you have the usual mosh pits, and people just having a great time, and that goes the same for the musicians and singers on stage too. Now moving on to the technical side for some filmmakers reading this, we’ve been so fortunate to use Blackmagic cameras, if it wasn’t Blackmagic I’d choose Canon, but there’s something about Blackmagic as a company and how they have revolutionized the film and television industry and how they made it so affordable for us independent filmmakers. The dynamic range and the color science are my favorite things about the cameras and we combine them with the legendary Sigma lenses from a 1.8 to 2.8 aperture, it’s very crucial to have these low aperture’s in the venue environment when dealing with changing lighting and in post it’s easy for us to fix and adjust the shot. Our team is built up of highly trained professionals that have years of experience like myself and it’s great that you can put your trust in our operators because they know exactly what is considered a great shot. They know the right framing, composition, movement, and action. Those things take years of practice and creative improvement to make a filmmaker stand out from the crowd. 

NEIL: You are clearly a leader, what traits do you feel make you capable to lead the Proveo team?

ALFRED: That’s a great question. The most important traits I would say for any leader of any type of team is they need to have a clear vision, goals, and are able to communicate that to the whole team so that everyone can understand your vision and are fully capable of executing it. Persistence and determination are a must when leading a team because of your commitment to the role, you will motivate your team to be committed as well which makes any task possible. Being an open book and letting your team suggest ideas that help with the goal, especially in a creative environment, any ideas are crucial for getting the bigger picture. Always being prepared for the worst case scenario, always having multiple backup plans, for example in this year's Counterfest we ran into a few problems in production on the day, we were down 2 camera guys and we only had like 3, not even including my sister because she was the photographer. So originally we we’re going to go big, 5 cameras including a camera crane/jib, steadicam the whole nine. But since 2 of my guys were not able to go I had to scratch that and come up with a new plan on the spot. So we went with a more simple set up, 4 cameras and simple angles which is pretty basic but to my surprise it came out better than honestly the past Counterfests which for us is a win. It feels and looks more organic which is what I wanted to do just like the Aftermovie I filmed of the very first Counterfest. The details and the reactions were spot on and I couldn’t have asked for the best cameramen that I have the honor to have on our team. And another trait for leading a team is the passion for it. It wouldn’t be fun if you don’t enjoy something that you don’t want to do and feel the need to force yourself to like it. You need to have 100% passion for anything you want to do and do it with 100% excellence and persistence, you will motivate your team and people and show them you truly are passionate of what you do and encourage them to do the same, a leader is not someone who’s only giving orders and tell other people what to do or tell them that there not doing it right, that’s not a leader, that’s someone whos “bossy” and are not providing a good vibe to the team. A leader is someone who is out there with their team by their side, working together paintbrush in hand, sleeves rolled up, sweating, covered in paint, mud, rain, along with their crew going into battle and guiding them through the way, that’s the kind of leader I strive to be and I encourage anyone out there to do the same. That’s the way it’s got to be and it should be done with 100% persistence and excellence 

NEIL: What are your hopes and expectations for the future (where do you see yourself in the next few years)?

ALFRED: I don’t think about the future all the time but when I do it always motivates me to keep going and enjoy the process. I’ve learned to enjoy the now and not worry about the future because the more you focus on the future, you won’t be enjoying living in the now, so that’s why I enjoy the slow but steady journey and I have more fun that way. And also I try to not focus too much on work but to enjoy life a little, not thinking about editing or videos but other things like music or traveling to new places. For the future of Proveo I hope that we can be more efficient in providing more content and to grow in the process as well. I also hope to grow our team as well. We need more people who are passionate and creative and who would want to join our team and make more amazing content for the world. We welcome anyone, experienced or no experience, who are committed and determined to help each other out in improving our skills. One advice I would give to anyone who wants to start their creative journey but you may have insecurities or are shy, those are walls you’ve built yourself and are blocking you from going for it, the only way to overcome that fear is to just go for it and watch where it takes you, you’ll never know unless you try and I promise you it is worth it. As a storyteller we have to take risks in order to tell a story, there are moments where we may be unsure of curtain decisions but as long as we trust the flow of the story all the pieces will fall in place. There are also times where things may happen all of a sudden and as great cameramen we need to be prepared for anything and everything to make sure we capture everything on tape. Personally I’m not aiming towards Proveo being the “best media company” because we're one in a million others out there but for those who enjoy our content and admire what we do we’re here for them and we will continue to be, others have their paths, we have ours and that’s that. What we’re aiming towards is improving our skills and exploring new territories and providing content the best way we can and we hope to encourage others to do the same. Even though we're very small and barely in our 5th year we’re keeping our heads high and looking forward to what lies ahead, hints of the little arrow in our logo. So I’m very excited for what will come in the future and we’re working hard to share a lot of archived material we have in store for y’all. And if you read through this entire interview, thanks I appreciate it. Well that’s about it. This has been my interview with Skullwave Records, a great label. All the music they create is awesome. Alfred signing out.

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